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Understanding 9/11Grateful Dead Live at 46th Street Rock Palace on 1970-11-11
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- Publication date
- 1970-11-11 ( check for other copies)
- Topics
- Live concert
- Collection
- GratefulDead
- Band/Artist
- Grateful Dead
- Resource
- DeadLists Project
- Item Size
- 1.5G
Hard To Handle, Truckin', Minglewood Blues, China Cat Sunflower-> I Know You Rider, Sugar Magnolia, Candyman, New Orleans, Cumberland Blues, Brokedown Palace, Not Fade Away
Notes
*with Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, & Papa John Creach
Caveat:
--This is among the poorer audience recordings of the era, and is recommended to the completists only. The quality varies throughout, though the latter half of the show tends to suffer the most.
Sound Forge edits:
--adjustments for what were severe and varying pitch problems
--frequent crackles and pops near tape side starts were fixed
--frequent channel flips were also corrected
Notes:
--all cuts at the beginnings of tracks are minor
--reel flip at 0:41 in 2nd Jam
--the placement of the setbreak is unknown
- Addeddate
- 2004-05-30 20:01:05
- Discs
- 3
- Has_mp3
- 1
- Identifier
- gd70-11-11.aud.cotsman.17081.sbeok.shnf
- Lineage
- AUD > MC > Cx4 > DAT > CD > EAC > SHN
- Location
- Brooklyn, NY
- Shndiscs
- 2
- Source
- Audience: Unknown Mics
- Transferred by
- Chuck Kiefe and JCotsman
- Type
- sound
- Venue
- 46th Street Rock Palace
- Year
- 1970
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Reviewer:
sgjerry
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October 20, 2015
Subject: Sound was acceptable But Being there was the BEST
Subject: Sound was acceptable But Being there was the BEST
Likewise, we went to all four shows. Wed. about 600 people , on Thursday could not have been more than
300, and half of the 66th was there too.
Jerry ... was hanging out with all of us, and requisitioned our stash ( 75% Puro, 25% Orange Mescaline ). I just remember the show going on and on, dancing the night away. Probably the best time at a dead show outside of free Central Park show. Did I mention that Wed. and Thurs. were NO TICKET Necessary.
Try that nowadays. :-)
300, and half of the 66th was there too.
Jerry ... was hanging out with all of us, and requisitioned our stash ( 75% Puro, 25% Orange Mescaline ). I just remember the show going on and on, dancing the night away. Probably the best time at a dead show outside of free Central Park show. Did I mention that Wed. and Thurs. were NO TICKET Necessary.
Try that nowadays. :-)
Reviewer:
woodstock950
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June 23, 2015
Subject: I Was There
Subject: I Was There
I was there all 4 nights. I even got hired as an usher for the Saturday night show. As soon as the lights went down the venue was missing one usher - me!
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I'm hoping soundboard recordings of these shows are found someday soon. I recall Jorma, Jack and Papa John only playing on Wednesday night. I remember the Airplane were playing at the Fillmore East that weekend and Wednesday was their only free night.
Reviewer:
njpg
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November 12, 2014
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Subject: -
Just couldn't listen long enough...
Reviewer:
bklynpolar
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August 27, 2010
Subject: this was not a makeup concert
Subject: this was not a makeup concert
this was not a makeup concert
there wer a series of concerts at the 46th street theatre. they started off with the byrds on october 23, 1970 followed ... up the next week by iron butterfly. then the four nights of the dead
wed, thurs, fri, and saturday.
jorma and jack jammed on wed and thurs. the place was 1/2 full. friday night was more crowded but you could still buy tickets at the door. saturday was sold out byt he time of the show.
what a great time.
i met jeery and pigpen outside before the thursday night show. met booby after the friday night show.
oh to be 16 again hanging in brooklyn, and seeing the good old grateful dead.
where are the soundboards of these shows.
also went to action house the same period had to use false id to get in
days of copied draft cards...
there wer a series of concerts at the 46th street theatre. they started off with the byrds on october 23, 1970 followed ... up the next week by iron butterfly. then the four nights of the dead
wed, thurs, fri, and saturday.
jorma and jack jammed on wed and thurs. the place was 1/2 full. friday night was more crowded but you could still buy tickets at the door. saturday was sold out byt he time of the show.
what a great time.
i met jeery and pigpen outside before the thursday night show. met booby after the friday night show.
oh to be 16 again hanging in brooklyn, and seeing the good old grateful dead.
where are the soundboards of these shows.
also went to action house the same period had to use false id to get in
days of copied draft cards...
Reviewer:
oldhead21470
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April 30, 2008
Subject: Awsome shows
Subject: Awsome shows
Like John L I was also at all of these shows (being a Brooklyn Boy myself).
He's gotten it 100% right. I can close my eyes and I'm 19 again floating on ... every note. These high quality audience tapes do have a certain ability to put you at the show. And back then this was all there was.
I do look forward to a better quality release in the future but until then I'll take these all day long.
Absolutly a 5. Just close your eyes and listen.
He's gotten it 100% right. I can close my eyes and I'm 19 again floating on ... every note. These high quality audience tapes do have a certain ability to put you at the show. And back then this was all there was.
I do look forward to a better quality release in the future but until then I'll take these all day long.
Absolutly a 5. Just close your eyes and listen.
Reviewer:
rsruss67
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September 30, 2007
Subject: Poor Quality - Good Show
Subject: Poor Quality - Good Show
Like many I wish this show had better quality, but you take what you can get. I grew up not far from this venue (I could have walked there), but at the
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time I was too young to know what was going on. My parents didn't seem to know either. One thing you do notice is the Brooklyn audience and they seem to be more intense than some other audiences that they played for. Glad somebody posted this concert and fixed it up a little.
Reviewer:
Bobk
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November 9, 2004 (edited)
Subject: brooklyn dead
Subject: brooklyn dead
thanks to johnny l. for a fine history lesson.. some of the shows in the deads 40 year histoy are note worthy for the venue played and energy displayed..
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this is one of those gems.. the dead rock brooklyn.. the sound quality is a lil rough.. but this is more of a historic piece.. along with the action house show in island park these shows were almost impossible to find as recant as the early 90s.. just to have these shows available is a treat.. this is the dead playin there tails off. for the sake of music.. and a high time.. the magic is there I had heard of these shows from some older heads.. my first show being 74.. who knew were this trip was going back then.. worth the time to save just for the unique venue .. check out the hot tuna/dead jam a johns other. some hot jamming with jorma... the music is there and they find it,,, if you live in or are from brooklyn give it a 5.. if you love the dead and there energy a 4
Reviewer:
John Lightning
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October 29, 2004
Subject: CLASSIC BROOKLYN SHOWS
Subject: CLASSIC BROOKLYN SHOWS
I attended all four shows as the gigs were just blocks away from my home. The venue was the Loews 46th Street Theatre, a classic old movie house that was
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converted to retail space many years ago. Too bad because it was a great hall, Fillmore sized, I'd guess it held about 2,500 people or so max.
The hall, renamed Banana Fish Garden for the rock concerts put on by a local promoter, was also used for a few tapings of the ABC Rock Concert show. I can recall seeing Jerry Lee Lewis there, putting a pair of panties tossed at him by one of his fans on his face and inhaling deeply (needless to say, it did not make the air cut of the concert). Also saw Hot Tuna there, their show delayed for some time while they haggled with ABC to leave a faux marijuana plant on the stage (it got the axe). Oddly enough, members of Hot Tuna came by to jam with the Dead one of the four nights in Brooklyn...it was quite a good night too.
The shows were held four consecutive nights Wednesday through Saturday. As this was Brooklyn, and the Dead were not THAT big yet, the weekday shows were barely half sold out. The hall was packed to capacity however, for the Fri & Sat night gigs.
Each night opened with the NRPS, featuring Garcia on Steel. The shows were wonderful, lots of intensity and fun. (I swear I recall Pigpen frying up a skillet of Bacon during one nights version of 'Good Lovin'...strange stuff, complete with some 'spiked' goodies backstage (making my recollection of one show rather vague). But the music was top notch, two electric sets and encores were the rule of the day.
Yes, the tape sound quality is fairly dismal, but the quality of the playing really comes across, confirming my memories of solid shows, and it makes this tape worth a listen. Of course I am partial to Dead from this era, and have fond memories of arriving at the Theatre many hours before the shows just to hang out with the band and their extended family, and take in the vibe.
I can also recall Garcia in particular, hanging out on the stage with us remaining faithful a half hour or so after one of the shows, fielding questions, signing autographs and getting wasted with the locals. Yes, this was back in the days when the Dead was not big business, and they drove their own or rented cars to the gigs (I recall Bobby leaving, with his guitar in hand, along with some of us through the lobby after one show, and climbing into a rather ratty vehicle...running into Phil at the Local I-Hop...not quite the rock stars they were destined to become).
I recall on one or two occasions prior to the shows, a reel to reel machine playing live Dead tapes in the hall, and I wonder if they were used to record any of these shows, and if those tapes will ever materialize. Too bad I was too young and shy to drag down my Revox and ask to plug in, but I am glad at least this one audience tape has surfaced...my thanks to the taper & poster. Now I eagerly await more from this run...hope springs eternal indeed!
The hall, renamed Banana Fish Garden for the rock concerts put on by a local promoter, was also used for a few tapings of the ABC Rock Concert show. I can recall seeing Jerry Lee Lewis there, putting a pair of panties tossed at him by one of his fans on his face and inhaling deeply (needless to say, it did not make the air cut of the concert). Also saw Hot Tuna there, their show delayed for some time while they haggled with ABC to leave a faux marijuana plant on the stage (it got the axe). Oddly enough, members of Hot Tuna came by to jam with the Dead one of the four nights in Brooklyn...it was quite a good night too.
The shows were held four consecutive nights Wednesday through Saturday. As this was Brooklyn, and the Dead were not THAT big yet, the weekday shows were barely half sold out. The hall was packed to capacity however, for the Fri & Sat night gigs.
Each night opened with the NRPS, featuring Garcia on Steel. The shows were wonderful, lots of intensity and fun. (I swear I recall Pigpen frying up a skillet of Bacon during one nights version of 'Good Lovin'...strange stuff, complete with some 'spiked' goodies backstage (making my recollection of one show rather vague). But the music was top notch, two electric sets and encores were the rule of the day.
Yes, the tape sound quality is fairly dismal, but the quality of the playing really comes across, confirming my memories of solid shows, and it makes this tape worth a listen. Of course I am partial to Dead from this era, and have fond memories of arriving at the Theatre many hours before the shows just to hang out with the band and their extended family, and take in the vibe.
I can also recall Garcia in particular, hanging out on the stage with us remaining faithful a half hour or so after one of the shows, fielding questions, signing autographs and getting wasted with the locals. Yes, this was back in the days when the Dead was not big business, and they drove their own or rented cars to the gigs (I recall Bobby leaving, with his guitar in hand, along with some of us through the lobby after one show, and climbing into a rather ratty vehicle...running into Phil at the Local I-Hop...not quite the rock stars they were destined to become).
I recall on one or two occasions prior to the shows, a reel to reel machine playing live Dead tapes in the hall, and I wonder if they were used to record any of these shows, and if those tapes will ever materialize. Too bad I was too young and shy to drag down my Revox and ask to plug in, but I am glad at least this one audience tape has surfaced...my thanks to the taper & poster. Now I eagerly await more from this run...hope springs eternal indeed!
Reviewer:
sheikyerbouti
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September 21, 2004
Subject: hot show - great trippy other one.....
Subject: hot show - great trippy other one.....
while the sound quality is not good at all listen to show - this is really good. it is a pity there is not a better version of this. agree with other reviewer
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worth a listen. china cat>rider hot as well...
Reviewer:
saucyfatlip
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September 1, 2004
Subject: poor sound, great everything else
Subject: poor sound, great everything else
My dad was at this show! he walked in not knowing who the dead were and walked out with his mind totaly blown. according to him, the venue was 25% FULL.
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this is because it was a last minute make up show. when i first heared it, i was a little turned off by the increadibly poor sound quality, but once i gave it a chance, i found it to be one of my favorate shows of that era.
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